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Post by Moscow Red Army on Dec 12, 2020 23:45:01 GMT -5
Hey everyone,
As has been discussed down in the chat box, it appears the NHL will indeed be returning Jan 13th (or ~mid January at least). We had a conference in the off-season to determine how we could conclude the 2019 playoffs, which was only part-way through the 1st round at the time that the NHL ceased operations.
Alex, of Morweena, suggested we run a secondary pool on FanTrax along side our official pool for the season, which made the most sense and had the support of most owners as our best option to go forward with.
Originally, when we discussed things, I had always just pictured this secondary pool running for the 1st month of the new season (1-week match-up Round 1, 1-week match-up Round 2, 2-week match-up Round 3). The more I'm pondering things however, I'm wondering if it could be good to look past that timeframe?
I mean, with the draft already being done, there really aren't any other league matters or time-constraints we're subject to here. Additionally, we really can't predict how things are going to play out when the season gets going again, and there's potential that there could be unexpected delays and postponements of games due to infection/quarantine/government regulation changes. We're really not sure what the schedule will be like either, and there's been lots of talk about teams doing a cluster of 3-game This being the case, we COULD expand the match-up timeframes each round, to help ensure a more "balanced" result?
Whether that's 2-week match-ups for each round, 1-month match-ups for each round, or we could even go to the extreme and make this side-pool run all season long if we really wanted to have fun with it.
What are people's thoughts on this?
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Post by Haukiputaan Ahmat on Dec 13, 2020 2:19:41 GMT -5
I think the best way to do it would be so that I'd win it...so probably none of those options.
I'm ok with any of the suggestions, and really do like that there will be closure for that season too.
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Post by Morweena Reimnoceri on Dec 13, 2020 17:22:57 GMT -5
Good points made there Adam...
Off the top of my head, I like the idea of two week matchups to try and level things out a bit in terms of the unknown but I'm really not going to die on any hills in terms of what the format is. I do think, however, that while it's good to start thinking about this now, we should wait to see what the schedule will look like before nailing something down.
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Dec 13, 2020 18:25:13 GMT -5
Good points made there Adam... Off the top of my head, I like the idea of two week matchups to try and level things out a bit in terms of the unknown but I'm really not going to die on any hills in terms of what the format is. I do think, however, that while it's good to start thinking about this now, we should wait to see what the schedule will look like before nailing something down. Yes, 100%. This is very preliminary, because we really have no idea what the NHL could come out with in regards to scheduling through all this. For our official season, I'd like to try and have everyone play everyone once before the playoffs if that can be helped (That requires a season of 11-weeks minimum to happen), but as the match-ups are already determined for the postponed playoffs we're afforded the opportunity to try and reach some semblance of balance. Our official season could be really sloppy though, if they do go the on/off hub scenario or even just the MLB style cluster-series. Hopefully each team gets 3 games in a week or something, but who knows if they end up having whole weeks off at points. That'd be a nightmare for us, obviously. But again, as Morweena's alluded to, we really need to see what the NHL is thinking first, so maybe speculating isn't helpful.
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Dec 20, 2020 14:05:33 GMT -5
So from the talks that are emerging, it looks like the NHL Regular season will start January 13th and run until May 8th. That gives us a regular season of about 4 months.
Assuming these details do stick (and that I can pull this off in FanTrax), I propose we do this for our belated championship tournament:
Round 1: Wed Jan 13 - Sun Feb 14
Round 2: Mon Feb 15 - Sun Mar 14
Round 3: Mon Mar 15 - Sun Apr 18
Thoughts?
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Post by Simi Valley Kings on Dec 20, 2020 14:34:40 GMT -5
A month for each round? Is that right?
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Dec 20, 2020 15:45:09 GMT -5
A month for each round? Is that right? Roughly, yes. Again, please refer to my original post for thoughts and theory behind this proposal.
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Post by Tampa Bay Thunder on Dec 20, 2020 16:25:32 GMT -5
Does this concern me or no?
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Dec 20, 2020 17:02:55 GMT -5
Does this concern me or no? Nope, don't worry about this, Michael. We never got to finish our playoffs last season, so our solution was to crown a champion through a secondary-pool based on this coming season's results. Only last year's playoff teams are involved, and is completely removed from our official season to be played.
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Post by Morweena Reimnoceri on Dec 20, 2020 19:04:26 GMT -5
So from the talks that are emerging, it looks like the NHL Regular season will start January 13th and run until May 8th. That gives us a regular season of about 4 months. Assuming these details do stick (and that I can pull this off in FanTrax), I propose we do this for our belated championship tournament: Round 1: Wed Jan 13 - Sun Feb 14 Round 2: Mon Feb 15 - Sun Mar 14 Round 3: Mon Mar 15 - Sun Apr 18 Thoughts? My initial thoughts are: Would this consist of 4 head to head match-ups and then whoever emerges out of those the winner moves on or would it be a month's worth of stats combined for one overall score? We would have to figure out what kind of roster movement would be allowed and probably be willing to be flexible on the rules there (for instance if a team has used 2 of 3 moves and then half their roster gets Covid - are they just SOL or would be grant some leniency?) Are you guys going to be able to mentally be able to handle my team beating yours up for 3 extra weeks in a matchup?
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Dec 20, 2020 22:05:57 GMT -5
My initial thoughts are: Would this consist of 4 head to head match-ups and then whoever emerges out of those the winner moves on or would it be a month's worth of stats combined for one overall score? We would have to figure out what kind of roster movement would be allowed and probably be willing to be flexible on the rules there (for instance if a team has used 2 of 3 moves and then half their roster gets Covid - are they just SOL or would be grant some leniency?) Are you guys going to be able to mentally be able to handle my team beating yours up for 3 extra weeks in a matchup? No, we'd follow the same match-ups and seeding from last season. Think of it as a reset of what started for us in March, but rather than each matchup only being a single week, each matchup is ~a month. Round 1: #3 vs #6, #4 vs #5 #1 and #2 BYEs Round 2: #1 vs Lowest Remaining Seed #2 vs Highest Remaining Seed Round 3: Highest Remaining Seed vs Lowest Remaining Seed Forgive me, I honestly forget who was seeded where, other than that Simi Valley was #1 and Moscow was #2. Yes, we will have to look at transaction counts. Whether we keep it 3/week, or up that due to potential COVID outbreaks. Or if we do my proposal, do we do 3(+)/week x 4, or 12(+) total for the entire matchup, used at managers discretion (which could actually be useful if there's a big outbreak or delays).
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Post by Simi Valley Kings on Dec 22, 2020 20:30:15 GMT -5
I really don't want to prolong last season and I really don't want to manage two teams for that long. I honestly think the first two rounds should be a week each and the final two. Maybe you could argue make each round 2 weeks but that is plenty. I rather get it over with and move on to this season. Many of my players have moved on to other teams and some players (like Mike Smith) don't have a team. It'll be confusing enough.
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Post by Morweena Reimnoceri on Dec 23, 2020 15:34:03 GMT -5
You know...I agree with this thought too. Dragging it out and managing two teams does seem a bit much...
But again, won't die on a hill. Will go with flow.
Schedule released. Let's goooooo
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Post by Oslo Mastodon on Dec 23, 2020 17:38:33 GMT -5
No preference
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Post by St. Roch Hawks on Dec 24, 2020 15:51:52 GMT -5
I think...wait, I'm not involved in the playoffs so I don't care.
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