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Post by Portland Buckaroos on Aug 6, 2022 23:05:02 GMT -5
Issue: Altering the DHL EL Player Draft Lottery to Exclude Playoff TeamsThis poll will be active 1 week from the time it is posted.
A ' YES' vote means If a team that made the playoffs owns a 1st round pick of a non-playoff team in the preceding season, that pick will not be eligible for the lottery draw. In this case, that 1st round pick will automatically slot in behind any of the 1st round picks that were eligible for the lottery, post draw. If there is more than once such draft pick, they will be seeded according to reverse-standings order, as per usual. Note: If a non-playoff team holds the 1st round pick of another non-playoff team, that pick will remain eligible for the draft lottery as normal. Expected Effects - This rule will prevent playoffs teams from lucking their way into a first overall or otherwise high selection.
- This should promote parity, ensuring non-playoff teams are getting priority in the draft.
- Playoff-level teams holding multiple 1st round picks may be more motivated to trade one or more of those 1st round picks at the trade deadline.
A 'NO' vote means
No change to the way we operate our draft lottery
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Post by Tampa Bay Thunder on Aug 7, 2022 13:41:34 GMT -5
When would this rule take effect? I've got a few 1st rounders for next year, and while I don't anticipate making the playoffs myself or all the picks that I have to be lottery eligible, this could be terrible for me if it went into effect immediately.
Otherwise, I'm in support of this change, but I don't think this rule change should effect draft picks that are already in circulation.
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Aug 7, 2022 14:09:36 GMT -5
When would this rule take effect? I've got a few 1st rounders for next year, and while I don't anticipate making the playoffs myself or all the picks that I have to be lottery eligible, this could be terrible for me if it went into effect immediately. Otherwise, I'm in support of this change, but I don't think this rule change should effect draft picks that are already in circulation. This would be for the 2023 draft lottery, so would come into effect for next off-season's lottery. Just to be clear, under this proposal, the draft lottery works EXACTLY the same as it does now for any non-playoff team with one or more 1st round picks. This literally only effects playoff teams that own a non-playoff team's 1st round pick. The draft lottery we just did would have been completely unaffected by this proposal, for example. If anyone is unclear on ANY aspect of this proposal, please don't hesitate to ask for clarity. I feel pretty strongly about this one if we're looking to address parity in this league (coming from the 4-time champ here).
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Post by Tampa Bay Thunder on Aug 7, 2022 14:49:52 GMT -5
I like it too, but for this coming season I have 4 1st rounders. If I somehow stumble into the playoffs (I know, maybe that's a long-shot... but with all the changes, its going to be a weird season), those 4 picks instantly become lottery-exempt, right? Maybe I don't understand the rule, but if time comes, and it's looking like even one of those picks would otherwise be lottery-eligible, I'm throwing games to miss the playoffs.
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Aug 7, 2022 16:42:08 GMT -5
I like it too, but for this coming season I have 4 1st rounders. If I somehow stumble into the playoffs (I know, maybe that's a long-shot... but with all the changes, its going to be a weird season), those 4 picks instantly become lottery-exempt, right? Maybe I don't understand the rule, but if time comes, and it's looking like even one of those picks would otherwise be lottery-eligible, I'm throwing games to miss the playoffs. If you make the playoffs, those other picks you own would be lottery exempt, yes. Still top 5 or better if any of their respective teams miss the playoffs, but would slot behind any non-playoff teams who have a 1st round pick(s).
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Post by Portland Buckaroos on Aug 7, 2022 17:01:51 GMT -5
I like it too, but for this coming season I have 4 1st rounders. If I somehow stumble into the playoffs (I know, maybe that's a long-shot... but with all the changes, its going to be a weird season), those 4 picks instantly become lottery-exempt, right? Maybe I don't understand the rule, but if time comes, and it's looking like even one of those picks would otherwise be lottery-eligible, I'm throwing games to miss the playoffs. I do think it's fair to point out that GMs might now have some motivation to throw games if this rule takes effect. Still, a lot of things have to happen in just the right way. You need to have eligible draft picks and be close to a playoff position without any reasonable chance of winning the whole thing. Seems like it wouldn't happen all that often, but the possibility is there.
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Post by St. Roch Hawks on Aug 7, 2022 21:52:51 GMT -5
I like it too, but for this coming season I have 4 1st rounders. If I somehow stumble into the playoffs (I know, maybe that's a long-shot... but with all the changes, its going to be a weird season), those 4 picks instantly become lottery-exempt, right? Maybe I don't understand the rule, but if time comes, and it's looking like even one of those picks would otherwise be lottery-eligible, I'm throwing games to miss the playoffs. I do think it's fair to point out that GMs might now have some motivation to throw games if this rule takes effect. Still, a lot of things have to happen in just the right way. You need to have eligible draft picks and be close to a playoff position without any reasonable chance of winning the whole thing. Seems like it wouldn't happen all that often, but the possibility is there. If you're throwing games to miss the playoffs so that you can improve your draft position in a FREE fantasy hockey league...let me be the first to offer my condolences on the loss of your priorities and perspective in life.
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Post by Tampa Bay Thunder on Aug 8, 2022 12:21:52 GMT -5
Appreciate that, Doug. Not all of us can put together a dynasty like St Roch though.
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Post by Haukiputaan Ahmat on Aug 9, 2022 0:52:48 GMT -5
Not very probable, but as it's still a slight possibility - what happens if all those 5 1st rounders from non-playoff teams are owned by playoff teams? Do we go by order or then have a lottery?
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Post by Simi Valley Kings on Aug 9, 2022 10:35:57 GMT -5
Not very probable, but as it's still a slight possibility - what happens if all those 5 1st rounders from non-playoff teams are owned by playoff teams? Do we go by order or then have a lottery? This makes my head hurt.
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Post by Tampa Bay Thunder on Aug 9, 2022 17:30:28 GMT -5
Not very probable, but as it's still a slight possibility - what happens if all those 5 1st rounders from non-playoff teams are owned by playoff teams? Do we go by order or then have a lottery? Maybe we should hold a lottery to see who gets into the lottery?
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Post by Morweena Reimnoceri on Aug 9, 2022 19:51:52 GMT -5
Not very probable, but as it's still a slight possibility - what happens if all those 5 1st rounders from non-playoff teams are owned by playoff teams? Do we go by order or then have a lottery? Maybe we should hold a lottery to see who gets into the lottery? I'll just take one for the team and draft 1st thru 5th every year. Problem solved. You're welcome guys.
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Post by Portland Buckaroos on Aug 9, 2022 19:58:59 GMT -5
Maybe we should hold a lottery to see who gets into the lottery? I'll just take one for the team and draft 1st thru 5th every year. Problem solved. You're welcome guys. So noble. A true hero.
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Aug 10, 2022 11:52:34 GMT -5
Not very probable, but as it's still a slight possibility - what happens if all those 5 1st rounders from non-playoff teams are owned by playoff teams? Do we go by order or then have a lottery? I cannot forsee this actually happening, but in the case that it does, I'd say let's just keep it in the order of reverse finish, no lottery.
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Aug 11, 2022 18:04:46 GMT -5
With a 6-6 tie in the voting, a majority was not reached, and therefor the rules will remain status quo. There will be no change to the way we operate our draft lottery.
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