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Post by Morweena Reimnoceri on Mar 5, 2019 8:28:21 GMT -5
Was thinking this morning....would there be any appetite for a roster reset at the start of the playoffs? Similar to the starting the season when we submit our rosters as we want them to start. Best foot forward to start your playoff journey.
Would benefit teams who are riddled with injury from having to burn their moves just to deal with that, would also eliminate the teams with the bye week having an extra 3 moves essentially (which I seem to remember was a point of contention?)
Tossing it out there.
Thoughts?
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Mar 5, 2019 8:37:20 GMT -5
Hmmm... This idea has a lot of merit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 10:03:14 GMT -5
I think this is a great idea.
I've been managing my roster these last few weeks with the playoffs in mind - making sure I have enough moves to have the "right" lineup for our post-season.
Being able to reset my roster at the start of the playoffs would have made a big difference to how I approached things leading up to an attempted run at the championship.
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Post by St. Roch Hawks on Mar 6, 2019 15:23:09 GMT -5
The only concern I can think of is that it does take away one advantage of having the bye week. Earning a bye by winning the Division has benefits and one of the biggest is that you currently get three "free" roster moves. If we do this, which I support by the way, then the "only" advantages to winning the Division is a free pass to the Semifinals and the benefit of advancing should you tie in your Semifinal matchup. Personally I think that's enough and I want the best teams to win not the team that happened to have three free roster moves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 17:07:00 GMT -5
The only concern I can think of is that it does take away one advantage of having the bye week. Earning a bye by winning the Division has benefits and one of the biggest is that you currently get three "free" roster moves. If we do this, which I support by the way, then the "only" advantages to winning the Division is a free pass to the Semifinals and the benefit of advancing should you tie in your Semifinal matchup. Personally I think that's enough and I want the best teams to win not the team that happened to have three free roster moves. So... if I understand this proposal correctly, all it does is start everyone's team roster over at the START of the playoffs. So teams on a bye would still get 3 moves during their bye week (which makes sense... their players are still playing and can get hurt etc), which is still a decent advantage depending on how they have built their roster. I like this idea because it lets us adjust our rosters again for the playoffs without being hampered by whatever we did during the regular season's last few weeks. And as Doug pointed out, this one time roster reset lets us put our "best team" forward.
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Post by Morweena Reimnoceri on Mar 6, 2019 19:59:24 GMT -5
The only concern I can think of is that it does take away one advantage of having the bye week. Earning a bye by winning the Division has benefits and one of the biggest is that you currently get three "free" roster moves. If we do this, which I support by the way, then the "only" advantages to winning the Division is a free pass to the Semifinals and the benefit of advancing should you tie in your Semifinal matchup. Personally I think that's enough and I want the best teams to win not the team that happened to have three free roster moves. So... if I understand this proposal correctly, all it does is start everyone's team roster over at the START of the playoffs. So teams on a bye would still get 3 moves during their bye week (which makes sense... their players are still playing and can get hurt etc), which is still a decent advantage depending on how they have built their roster. I like this idea because it lets us adjust our rosters again for the playoffs without being hampered by whatever we did during the regular season's last few weeks. And as Doug pointed out, this one time roster reset lets us put our "best team" forward. I hadn't really thought about that - I honestly don't care - but keeping those extra moves makes sense in that case. However, those teams with a bye week could also be awarded an extra week before submitting their playoff roster. In either case, the roster submission would be the same as on Day 1 of the season. Make whatever moves you want to set your team up for the playoffs.
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Mar 6, 2019 23:35:27 GMT -5
I'm cool with setting a playoff starting roster transaction-limit-free. I get the idea that this decreases the value of winning your division (relative to the other playoff teams), but like Doug, I still think getting a BYE week in week 1 is a hell of a reward in itself.
Likewise echoing Doug's point on that I want the best team to win, not just the one with the most banked transactions (not that I think there's a real issue to be addressed there, but it still stands).
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Post by St. Roch Hawks on Mar 7, 2019 0:06:55 GMT -5
I think each team has to submit their playoff roster the night before their playoff matchup begins. For teams in Round One that's Sunday Night (games beginning on Monday, March 11). For teams that have a bye week that's the following Sunday night (games beginning on Monday, March 18). No additional moves needed they simply get an extra week to see who they'll be playing, who is injured, etc. That way everyone in the playoffs gets the same opportunity but the teams that get the bye week get a little extra time.
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Post by Morweena Reimnoceri on Mar 7, 2019 7:39:48 GMT -5
I think each team has to submit their playoff roster the night before their playoff matchup begins. For teams in Round One that's Sunday Night (games beginning on Monday, March 11). For teams that have a bye week that's the following Sunday night (games beginning on Monday, March 18). No additional moves needed they simply get an extra week to see who they'll be playing, who is injured, etc. That way everyone in the playoffs gets the same opportunity but the teams that get the bye week get a little extra time. Exactly what I was thinking after the point was brought up. That in itself will be allow the team with a bye-week to adjust to the team they are facing in the semis too.
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Mar 7, 2019 16:55:20 GMT -5
Well, that's 4 in support of this for next season. Anyone else? Save us from creating a poll?
EDIT: Looks like Penzance and Vegas have given likes in approval as well, so that should give us at least 6, I assume. Would like confirmation though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 17:26:28 GMT -5
Sounds reasonable enough to me. I'm for it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 19:47:03 GMT -5
Could we also finalize what this looks like?
Is it...
a) all playoff teams can fully reset their rosters at the start of the playoffs - then each team gets 3 moves per week (including teams on byes), and 5/6 (?) in the final
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b) all playoff teams can fully reset their rosters st the start of their playoffs - round 1 teams before round 1, bye teams before round 2
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c) all playoff teams can fully reset their rosters at the start of each round of playoffs
I originally though we were talking about option (a). I’m in favor of option (a) being implemented next year.
I think option (b) gives too much of an advantage to the teams on bye week’s, and I’m not in favor of implementing it.
I think option (c) takes away some of the strategy of managing your moves, and it also takes away some of the competitive advantage given to the bye week teams. That said, it would have us roster our best teams against each other. I favor option (a), but I’d also be ok with option (c) if that’s what everyone prefers.
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Post by Morweena Reimnoceri on Mar 7, 2019 20:47:10 GMT -5
Option C never crossed my mind. I do not care for it.
I don't care either way between a) and b)
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Post by Moscow Red Army on Mar 7, 2019 22:50:16 GMT -5
I'm good with A or B, but lean towards B if I have to be specific.
If we get another couple Yeses, I'll put up an official poll for which option we would go with.
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Post by St. Roch Hawks on Mar 7, 2019 22:55:13 GMT -5
I support B
I do not support A or C
A) Allowing the teams with a BYE to have unlimited roster moves at the start of the playoffs AND three additional moves during the bye week is too much of an advantage for them, in my opinion. They've already got the Bye Week and having the same opportunity to set their roster on the eve of their first playoff matchup (which all four teams playing in the first round were able to do) is fair. Beyond that it becomes too tipped in their favor, IMO.
C) That's just way too much player movement at that point.
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